Can UK O.A.P'S Survive in Spain On Basic Pensions.?

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Re: Can UK O.A.P'S Survive in Spain On Basic Pensions.?

Postby katy » Fri Oct 18, 2013 6:21 pm

They probably used a Lawyer like 99.9% of the people who have bought illegal homes :roll:

Hope we aren't getting round to blaming the victim again :twisted:

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Postby Mowser » Fri Oct 18, 2013 7:17 pm

Hope we aren't getting round to blaming the victim again

I blame the victim! :wave:
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Re: Can UK O.A.P'S Survive in Spain On Basic Pensions.?

Postby Lavanda » Fri Oct 18, 2013 7:20 pm

"again"? :? It would help if the reporting was less woolly so that readers could UNDERSTAND the story but reading, writing and comprehension are no match for sensationalism, are they?
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Re: Can UK O.A.P'S Survive in Spain On Basic Pensions.?

Postby katy » Fri Oct 18, 2013 7:21 pm

Of course you do. Wouldn't expect anything else from the A.commers :lol:

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Re: Can UK O.A.P'S Survive in Spain On Basic Pensions.?

Postby pete_l » Fri Oct 18, 2013 8:12 pm

anyroads wrote:Why anyone needs a £2 million bonus to do their job beats me !

Yeah, it beats me. :?
But being a selfless individual, I'm willing to make a huge personal sacrifice. Give me a £2 M bonus and I'll tell you if it helps me do my job, or not.

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Re: Can UK O.A.P'S Survive in Spain On Basic Pensions.?

Postby katy » Fri Oct 18, 2013 8:27 pm

Lavanda wrote:"again"? :? It would help if the reporting was less woolly so that readers could UNDERSTAND the story but reading, writing and comprehension are no match for sensationalism, are they?


Yes lets blame the Mail. It's also on Yahoo and all the other nationals. What did you expect...that they didn't show any pics of the demolished home. I understand the story perfectly :yawn:

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Re: Can UK O.A.P'S Survive in Spain On Basic Pensions.?

Postby barry » Fri Oct 18, 2013 8:44 pm

Katy, how do you assume that the great proportion of buyers used a lawyer, the advice on here seems to be that the use of a Gestor would suffice. Also a great number of buyers get such distorted vision through their rose tinted specs that they choose to use a lawyer connected with the seller.

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Re: Can UK O.A.P'S Survive in Spain On Basic Pensions.?

Postby Lavanda » Fri Oct 18, 2013 8:45 pm

Yahoo and Mail are word-for-word the same. The Telegraph has a video and I can't see it elsewhere. Can you post links? I'm really interested in the role of the lawyer.

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Re: Can UK O.A.P'S Survive in Spain On Basic Pensions.?

Postby Lavanda » Sat Oct 19, 2013 7:02 am

Seems a bit quiet all of a sudden ... :wink:

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Re: Can UK O.A.P'S Survive in Spain On Basic Pensions.?

Postby Lavanda » Sat Oct 19, 2013 7:11 am

... also the story said the builder built four illegal homes in the area, all sold to people from the U.K. What happened to the other three houses and the other people? We have no idea.

Why, oh why, is reporting so c5ap these days?

So to keep to the topic, it seems some pensioners will never be able to live in Spain on a U.K. pension - for obvious reasons.

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Re: Can UK O.A.P'S Survive in Spain On Basic Pensions.?

Postby BENIDORM » Sat Oct 19, 2013 8:26 am

Lavanda wisely stated.....

''So to keep to the topic, it seems some pensioners will never be able to live in Spain on a U.K. pension - for obvious reasons.''

And of course some pensioners find it difficult to Survive in UK on Basic Pensions.

It really depends on Lifestyles, and yes it does require thought and planning, but if your expectations aren't set too high then a good and happy lifestyle is easily within reach of everyone, even for people on low incomes,and I know many who have good lives here in Spain.

May I Wish everyone a Pleasant and Peaceful Weekend, wherever you are. :wave:

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Re: Can UK O.A.P'S Survive in Spain On Basic Pensions.?

Postby katy » Sat Oct 19, 2013 9:25 am

Lavanda wrote:Seems a bit quiet all of a sudden ... :wink:


Perhaps read the Olive Press who broke the story :roll:

2 houses demolished and two to go. Oh and Telegraph has a short video of the demolition. Hope they have a garage to live in like the Priors.

Yes lets keep to topic...don't mention the war :mrgreen: People have been hounded off the forum for less.

Anyway, I'm scarpering before someone comes on with their other name to do a personal attack

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Re: Can UK O.A.P'S Survive in Spain On Basic Pensions.?

Postby Mowser » Sat Oct 19, 2013 10:07 am

Anyway, I'm scarpering before someone comes on with their other name to do a personal attack


Name names! (or pm me)
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Postby Lavanda » Sat Oct 19, 2013 10:12 am

and then you can PM me, Mowser :lol:

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Re: Can UK O.A.P'S Survive in Spain On Basic Pensions.?

Postby Mowser » Sat Oct 19, 2013 10:28 am

Lavanda wrote:and then you can PM me, Mowser :lol:

Will I pm your good self or your alter-ego? :wave:
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Re: Can UK O.A.P'S Survive in Spain On Basic Pensions.?

Postby gus-lopez » Sat Oct 19, 2013 12:24 pm

No one lives in them.
The houses started to be constructed without licences in 2002. The Junta put a stop to it in 2004 by ordering demolition.
The builder/promoter carried on.
In 2005 they were solde , via estate agents, to British families using abogados & through the notary !!
All were connected , legally , to water & electric.
In 2005 the Junta notified them all that they were illegal & had demolition orders on.
They all gave up eventually.
The builder has been given 23 months in prison , fined & ordered to pay compensation to all families.
He has declared himself bankrupt.
The Mayor, who signed the orders for connection for water & electricity, has been given 5 months in prison, fined & banned from public office for 23 months. He denies ever signing the orders.

The Junta should be going after all those involved from the moment the 1st demolition order was put in place & arresting them all.
The 2nd 2 houses have a stay of execution as the local council have obtained a court order to the effect that there was no demolition licence, nor environmental assessment, in place for the first 2 & nor is there for those still standing. The Junta say they don't need one.
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Re: Can UK O.A.P'S Survive in Spain On Basic Pensions.?

Postby Lavanda » Sat Oct 19, 2013 1:12 pm

Thank-you, Gus. It's starting to become clear. The Press always seem to go for the sensational headline and leaves out the detail and I didn't look for the story in The Olive Press as I didn't realise it had become a National title. Silly me. What a mess and pretty nasty for the buyers. I no longer recommend anyone buying in Andalucia - as lovely as it is - because it's so dodgy. On the other hand there are more happy people, in legal houses, enjoying life in Andalucia than there are not. Thank goodness!

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Re: Can UK O.A.P'S Survive in Spain On Basic Pensions.?

Postby BENIDORM » Mon Oct 21, 2013 8:04 am

And while these 'sensational' reports keep appearing there are still plenty of shrewd buyers 'snapping up' the bargains, ok maybe the cheaper properties but it's still a move in the right direction.
It just shows that most people see beyond the 'headlines', and certainly anyone who is considering buying in Spain would be missing out if they didn't act now.

However it is still wise to buy in the right areas, and any complicated properties, even if they are 'dirt cheap', are in my opinion best avoided.

And where are the 'right areas' ?
Well I would suggest that at the moment there really is something for everyone, either coastal or inland, depends on the type of lifestyle you want and can afford.

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Re: Can UK O.A.P'S Survive in Spain On Basic Pensions.?

Postby peteroldracer » Mon Oct 21, 2013 9:20 am

BENIDORM wrote: And where are the 'right areas' ?
Well I would suggest that at the moment there really is something for everyone, either coastal or inland, depends on the type of lifestyle you want and can afford.Regards,Gordon.

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Re: Can UK O.A.P'S Survive in Spain On Basic Pensions.?

Postby Lavanda » Mon Oct 21, 2013 9:55 am

There are probably a few people, right now, who wish they had sat on that fence just a little while longer before jumping off into, for example, buying a house that turns out to be a pile of aggravation.


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