Winter enclosure for verandah?

[rafiki]

Our side patio has a covered section we refer to as the veranda. It is about 4.5m wide by 3.5m deep and about 2.5m high at the front end. The sides are solid brick walls with UPVC double doors on one side and the roof is a metal frame covered with corrugated sheets.

This area is accessed from our living room via the double doors and we live in there the whole summer. It's a very useful area and we want to make it more useful in winter.

We would like to be able to close in the front when it gets cold but still have plenty of light and a door to access the rest of the patio. We aren't keen on any sort of canvas with plastic windows because we want it to be a room not a tent.I guess that slot-in UPVC panels or perhaps similar but 'concertina-ing' to each side are the only options, the latter not really favourite because of the space it would take up pushed to the side in summer.

Has anyone else done this sort of thing? I would be interested in other ideas and names and addresses of suppliers if poss please.

[MiriamO]

Have you looked at this?

http://www.andalucia.com/property/patio-enclosures.htm

[silver]

Cristales para terrazas sin marcos..these are glass curtains with no frame that can be folded to one side and dont take up much room...but they are not cheap.

[rafiki]

Have you looked at this?

http://www.andalucia.com/property/patio-enclosures.htm

I hadn't seen that. Thanks.

[rafiki]

Cristales para terrazas sin marcos..these are glass curtains with no frame that can be folded to one side and dont take up much room...but they are not cheap.

That system seems to fulfil most of the criteria. I have found several refs. on Google, one supplier in Sevilla so I'll be following this up.

Much appreciated.

[gus]

Rafiki,

Make sure you get a reputable supplier/fitter (with references).............because, if they don't work properly they can be a nightmare!!

Gus

[rafiki]

Thanks for that Gus. In that case can someone recommend a supplier/installer in Sevilla province please?

[rafiki]

We contacted Lumon Cristales España and they have replied that our nearest distributor is:

Glass Alcor S.L.
C/Carmen, 6
21860 Villalba Del Alcor
Huelva

That's not very far from us. Anyone had any dealings with them? Any good?

[Solysombra]

As a matter of personal interest if I was to enlose my terrace with sliding glass double glazing, do I need any form of planning permission?, I know how difficult the spanish authorites can be about buliding regs!

[rafiki]

Good point. I would like to be reassured on that too. Anyone have any experience of this?

[El Cid]

As a matter of personal interest if I was to enlose my terrace with sliding glass double glazing, do I need any form of planning permission?, I know how difficult the spanish authorites can be about buliding regs!

Yes you do. Glassing in a terrace increases the habitable area of the property and does require planning permission.

Sid

[rafiki]

Hi Sid. Would that apply if the part of the terrace to be glassed in is already roofed and bounded by walls on three sides do you think? Atm it looks like this:

http://images.fotopic.net/?id=33020734&noresize=1

[El Cid]

At the moment it is a covered terrace. Putting a wall in would make it a room which would need permission.

If you had completely sliding windows then maybe it would not matter. The only way to find out is ask the planning department at the town hall.

Of course you could just go ahead anyway like most people would.

Sid

[Jennifer]

Have you looked at this?

http://www.andalucia.com/property/patio-enclosures.htm

I followed this thread: it gives a good description but I didn't seem to find any supplier/pictures. Even the links on the left only brought me back to where I started! Anybody got any other links to "glass curtains" they can share?