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Can anyone help? We are looking for an electrician to rewire our house near Alcala.We have had one quote but not in writing,and we're waiting for another via email.Can anyone recommend someone reliable & honest.What can we expect for our money and roughly what will it cost.Should we use English or Spanish tradesmen?
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Alcala la Real, Jaen province?
In reality, you can use whomever you want and feel most happy with to carry out the rewire. Just be aware that there are v few expat electricians here who are authorised to issue boletins and so you will no doubt have to employ a local registered Spanish company to carry out this final check and issue of a safety certificate if you use somebody English to perform the rewire.
Not sure what you mean by what can you expect for your money - cost will of course depend on the scale of the job, surface mounted vs buried cabling, no of sockets etc.
In reality, you can use whomever you want and feel most happy with to carry out the rewire. Just be aware that there are v few expat electricians here who are authorised to issue boletins and so you will no doubt have to employ a local registered Spanish company to carry out this final check and issue of a safety certificate if you use somebody English to perform the rewire.
Not sure what you mean by what can you expect for your money - cost will of course depend on the scale of the job, surface mounted vs buried cabling, no of sockets etc.
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you wont find a spark that will do an internal installation surface mounted. it will be chased into the walls.
will you do your own chasing ?
this will cause ALOT of mess. ie, empty the house for a week.
how many rooms is it? whats the distribution?
Do you have 3 phase?
is the main supply to the house sufficient or does it need replacing (new supply cable is 16mm2 x 2, or 16mm2 x 4 for 3 phase)
i'd put my neck out and say AROUND € 6000 all in for a two bedroom "normal" villa. obviously its dependant on alot of factors. the only way i could give a "real" quote (via email) is if you could email me plans of the house (detailing where you want switches and sockets etc, distance to your supply pole, do you have aircon and where is it, do you have a pool, do you have electric gates, do you have an outhouse etc etc etc...)
email me detailed plans of your house with dimensions and i'll put a quote together for you.
you should expect at least llegrand sockets with earth, twins everywhere around the house, (not single sockets unless you actually request them), two way switching in all rooms except the bathroom and kitchen, all the lights fitted, all the ceiling lights fitted, any fans fitted. air con will be extra for fitting, as will electric gates.
you should expect a new consumer box, with at least 32 breakers in it.
you should find a new seperate supply to your water heater (if its electric), a new supply to a washing machine / tumble drier, and a 4mm2 to a medium powered oven, or 6mm2 to a high powered (if electric). you should also expect no more than two air conditioning units to be on one breaker. so if you have 6, thats three breakers. (these are all legal requirements btw)
you should expect 3x 2.5mm2 cable behind any socket, and 3x 1.5mm2 to any light. anyone who says that it doesn't need an earth is cutting corners and trying to make more profit. (legal requirements btw)
you should expect any lights fitted in a bathroom to be waterproof and 12v with remote transformers. 230v light fittings in a bathroom are dangerous. (but strangly do pass the bullatin.)
you should expect a bullatin to be organised by the electrician that carries out the installation.
you should expect to see minimum 100x100 wall junction boxes.
you should expect to see no earths in the consumer box.
anything else just ask ... (i work for an electrician btw.. )
will you do your own chasing ?
this will cause ALOT of mess. ie, empty the house for a week.
how many rooms is it? whats the distribution?
Do you have 3 phase?
is the main supply to the house sufficient or does it need replacing (new supply cable is 16mm2 x 2, or 16mm2 x 4 for 3 phase)
i'd put my neck out and say AROUND € 6000 all in for a two bedroom "normal" villa. obviously its dependant on alot of factors. the only way i could give a "real" quote (via email) is if you could email me plans of the house (detailing where you want switches and sockets etc, distance to your supply pole, do you have aircon and where is it, do you have a pool, do you have electric gates, do you have an outhouse etc etc etc...)
email me detailed plans of your house with dimensions and i'll put a quote together for you.
you should expect at least llegrand sockets with earth, twins everywhere around the house, (not single sockets unless you actually request them), two way switching in all rooms except the bathroom and kitchen, all the lights fitted, all the ceiling lights fitted, any fans fitted. air con will be extra for fitting, as will electric gates.
you should expect a new consumer box, with at least 32 breakers in it.
you should find a new seperate supply to your water heater (if its electric), a new supply to a washing machine / tumble drier, and a 4mm2 to a medium powered oven, or 6mm2 to a high powered (if electric). you should also expect no more than two air conditioning units to be on one breaker. so if you have 6, thats three breakers. (these are all legal requirements btw)
you should expect 3x 2.5mm2 cable behind any socket, and 3x 1.5mm2 to any light. anyone who says that it doesn't need an earth is cutting corners and trying to make more profit. (legal requirements btw)
you should expect any lights fitted in a bathroom to be waterproof and 12v with remote transformers. 230v light fittings in a bathroom are dangerous. (but strangly do pass the bullatin.)
you should expect a bullatin to be organised by the electrician that carries out the installation.
you should expect to see minimum 100x100 wall junction boxes.
you should expect to see no earths in the consumer box.
anything else just ask ... (i work for an electrician btw.. )
Good point grouser. our shaver socket says 230v/115.
Was just interested to know if people do opt for a 12v bathroom as that's something I've never heard mentioned before....seems logical though.
What you say is right about the pull chord or external room switches, but then you switch your 230v mirror lighs on with a switch over the sink
Kenny
Was just interested to know if people do opt for a 12v bathroom as that's something I've never heard mentioned before....seems logical though.
What you say is right about the pull chord or external room switches, but then you switch your 230v mirror lighs on with a switch over the sink
Kenny
Babby a mate of ours over there had a surface mounted job recently on his finca. It looked weird, the cable used looked like old fashioned telephone wire and he had funny little switches fitted................nothing like how I guessed it would be. Is yours like this or is it normal cable in conduit with normal switches?
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Can set depth and width and saw out the run in one go to whatever size you want for the trunking.
All you need to do then is run a chisel along the chased lines and make a neat job. It's better than belting away with a chisel all day and half the wall dropping off.
Can set depth and width and saw out the run in one go to whatever size you want for the trunking.
All you need to do then is run a chisel along the chased lines and make a neat job. It's better than belting away with a chisel all day and half the wall dropping off.
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When I did the electrical installation for my house I had to get someone to bring pull cord switches and shaver sockets from the UK for the bathrooms.
The transformer in the shaver socket doesn't change the voltage but lowers the amperage to a few milliamps so that an electric shock would not be so severe.
Bathroom switches in Spanish houses are supposed to be put on the wall outside of the bathroom if they cannot be placed more than a certain distance from the nearest sink, bath or shower.
The transformer in the shaver socket doesn't change the voltage but lowers the amperage to a few milliamps so that an electric shock would not be so severe.
Bathroom switches in Spanish houses are supposed to be put on the wall outside of the bathroom if they cannot be placed more than a certain distance from the nearest sink, bath or shower.
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Ooooh! Wonder if could persuade OH to buy me one for Valentine's Day!toddcl wrote:Can set depth and width and saw out the run in one go to whatever size you want for the trunking.
All you need to do then is run a chisel along the chased lines and make a neat job. It's better than belting away with a chisel all day and half the wall dropping off.
Alan, sorry for my terminology Its a small steel slitting blade impregnated with diamond particles. They come in sizes from under 3" to 12" + Dia.
For example you'd fit a large one into a big petrol Whizzer if for instance you wanted to cut thick slate, stone or quarry tiles.
A 4 inch one in an angle grinder will do ordinary tiles etc. and cut through steel bolts etc. with ease............................best invention for ages especially as they now cost peanuts.
Kenny
For example you'd fit a large one into a big petrol Whizzer if for instance you wanted to cut thick slate, stone or quarry tiles.
A 4 inch one in an angle grinder will do ordinary tiles etc. and cut through steel bolts etc. with ease............................best invention for ages especially as they now cost peanuts.
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Hi you shouldnt pay anymore than 3000euros that includes all chased into the walls. I know a very good English sparky dwon the road from you did all my house has all certificated and is working legally!
I will send you a PM with his details I have recomended him to lots of people who are also happy
I will send you a PM with his details I have recomended him to lots of people who are also happy
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